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Speaker: Gay marriage
a conservative idea
By Travis Gulbrandson
travis.gulbrandson@plaintalk.net
“Same-sex marriage”
and “conservative” are not
terms most people would
associate with one another.
Nonetheless, one recent
visitor to the University of
South Dakota said that, at
its base, same-sex marriage
a conservative idea.
“Profoundly
conservative,” in fact.
“It’s occurred to me that
gay people are practically
the last people in America
who still believe in
marriage, who believe in its
power, who speak in almost
poetic ways about its ability
to change a person’s life for
the better,” said Dale
Carpenter, Earl R. Larson
professor of civil rights and
civil liberties law at the
University of Minnesota
School of Law.
“There’s a good reason
for that. That’s because you
really can’t make the case
for same-sex marriage
without making the case for
marriage, and that is what
they have been doing now
for quite some time,”
Carpenter said. “These
families are saying ‘yes’ to a
profoundly conservative
and traditionalizing social
institution, and the
question is, when will
conservatives take ‘yes’ for
an answer?”
Carpenter made his
comments Monday
afternoon as part of the
second annual Lavender
Lecture at the USD School
of Law.
Founded by the student
group OUTlaws, the
Lavender Lecture began last
year as a venue to bring
discussion and education to
USD on gay, lesbian,
bisexual and transgender
issues and the law.
Carpenter said the
proponents of same-sex
marriage are taking their
cues from political theorist
Edmund Burke, the ideas of
whom were ideologically
and philosophically
conservative.
“(Burkeanism) basically
means an approach to
change that respects a
society’s history and its
traditions, and wants
change to come
incrementally if it’s going to
come at all,” Carpenter said.
Burke’s insights were not
a command to resist all
change, but an urging to
base change on actual lived
experience rather than
abstract thought, Carpenter
said.
“The debate over gay
marriage for the past 25
years had been for along
time largely a dual of
abstractions, of hopes, of
fears, of unsupported
claims, of hypotheticals,”
Carpenter said. “That has
been true on both sides of
the debate, although it has
to be added that for gay
families, this is very far from
an abstract debate.”
It’s becoming less so for
much of the country, as
well.
Seventeen states now
have a full recognition of
same-sex marriages,
affecting approximately 40
percent of the population,
Carpenter said.
“The period of abstract
debate, where someone can
just walk into a room and
ask a lot of questions and
present doomsday
scenarios, has come to an
end,” he said. “The debate
has increasingly become an
empirical one, and in that
debate, an American-style
federalism where states have
decided what kind of
recognition they’re going to
give to same-sex couples, is
ideal.
“It is something from
which the rest of us can
derive lessons,” he said.
In the states where samesex marriage is recognized,
it’s been business as usual,
he said.
In places like
Scandinavia where it has
been legal for approximately
20 years, marriage rates as a
whole are up, marriages are
longer-lasting, more stable
and more monogamous,
Carpenter said.
By contrast, the “slippery
slope” of polygamy, incest
and inter-species
relationships has not come
to pass, he said.
As more gays and
lesbians have gotten
married and raised
children, the roles in the
debate have been reversed,
Carpenter said.
“Same-sex marriage
advocates increasingly rely
on the conditions that have
been created by a Burkean,
slow incremental process of
change over decades,” he
said. “Opponents of samesex marriage continue to
rest on theories or
essentialist ideas about what
marriage or the nature of
marriage is.”
Carpenter said the
national debate on same-sex
marriage is the result of the
converging of two longterm trends that shape both
American society and the
law.
They are the trends in
marriage law and practice as
a whole, and the treatment
of homosexuals, he said.
Opponents of same-sex
marriage have said that
recognizing such
relationships would
“radically redefine”
marriage, Carpenter said.
“The truth is that
heterosexuals have radically
redefined marriage over the
past 100-250 years,” he said.
Among other advances,
there is now equality
between husbands and
wives in the eyes of the law,
there has been an unlinking
of marriage and
procreation, and there is
more of an emphasis on
marrying for romance,
rather than as a way to gain
property and wealth, or to
create clear lines of
inheritance, Carpenter said.
In addition, Carpenter
said there have been
“sweeping legal and cultural
changes” that resulted in the
decriminalization and demedicalization of
homosexual behavior, and
an increase in civil rights
laws.
Full recognition of samesex marriage is another step
in this gradual process of
change, he said.
“Same-sex marriage, we
have reason to believe, will
help to improve and has
helped to improve the lives
of millions of our fellow
citizens, including children,
without the risk of harming
anyone else,” Carpenter
said. “It’s one of those rare
debates of policy where we
have a win-win, where
someone doesn’t have to
lose in order for someone
else to win.”
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